I wasn't expecting the landlord to throw him out - just tell him that he was being disrespectful to the other fifty or so customers in the bar that were there for the music as well as the performers. If the landlord had tried and the oaf then still carried on, at least he would have tried.Sorry about the thread drift but with all the cookery going on here I'm feeling hungry.

UFOs I've seen a few at Knockholt.Especially good when you get those clear autumn skies. Meteor storms too. It's best to find a spot away from the fire and lay back in a reclining chair and wait. Best looking in a NW direction that seems to be the active area after midnight. OK they may be satelites - but then again ...