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Thread #120986   Message #2678048
Posted By: Royston
12-Jul-09 - 05:26 AM
Thread Name: BS: BNP: What would you do?
Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
Joe,

And Royston, since you state that you know nothing about MBSGeorge

It's hard work reading everything on a web-forum (I manage one elsewhere in the ether) but I did not state that at all. She has told us an awful lot about her socio-political views by becoming a prominent member of a political party. I stated my opinion that I, personally, don't need to know anything more about her in the context of a debate about her politics.

You may argue that I am wrong to hold that opinion, I respect your view, but my opinion is not based on "knowing nothing".

you'll solidify her support of the BNP if you continue to use threats and lies

I would be concerned if there were lies, or that you thought there were lies, told here about the BNP. Please can you point out the examples - I will either bring back the proof or offer clarification to anyone that may have made such a mistake.

I am unconcerned about the sensibilities of members of the BNP. As an activist, there isn't time for it. We are shouting the truth, with irrefutable supporting evidence, about the BNP from the rooftops in order to repudiate their recruiting calls. The truth will deter reasonable or "intelligent, misguided" people from joining and will encourage some to hand back their membership cards.

Crow Sister says she has met some "misguided" BNP converts, well I haven't. And I've spoken to more BNP sympathisers (members of the public not even party-members) on protests and rallies than I care to remember. Even if you calmly tell the truth about the BNP and hand out evidence packs, you know what they tell you? "We don't care, so what if a few (insert any racist insult) get sent back home!"

The harsh reality is that there are a sizeable constituency of people who are stupid and amoral enough to turn a blind eye. Like in Nazi Germany. Then there are racists who just don't care what happens to someone else and then there are the active supporters of the BNP who revel in their nastiness. You can't reach these groups.

The MBSGeorge types (assuming her to fall into this category) of middle class rural types that somehow fell or drifted into the BNP orbit, are not really the problem, they are not important. They will either get the message or the won't.

That's why I have repeatedly condemned her politics and political choices and offered the opinion that "She ain't worth it", let her get on with it. Keep fighting fascism, George will either return to society or she won't.