Ok it's now 9 o'clock Sunday night and I've been too ill to even look at Mudcat for 24 hours....... I come back to find one of my best mates has snuck off and got married without a word, Spaw passed out in front of the t.v, Gervase with a homicidal gleam in his eye and this damn thread STILL going.....so status quo maintained as usual, I see.