I must admit Glueman, when I began reading this board late last year - it was all a bit overwhelming... So many strongly expressed and authoritative absolute opinions about what WAS or SHOULD be in ordfer for something to be CORRECT. In fact it was people like our own SO'P who helped me learn to not give a damn and just get on and sing. Thus I take some of his assertions on this thread, with something of a pinch of salt. But then I suspect he rather enjoys playing the Trickster. Another factor which completely remedied my anxieties, was getting out and meeting and singing with people on the ground floor in Essex, Kent and Suffolk. I now know that I could walk into any folk club in the country and be welcomed and have a pretty enjoyable evening. Of course, as I've said elsewhere, the likelihood of getting a shag is zero unless you're around retirement age, which has got to be something of a teensy-weensy put-off to younger and thus shag-questing generations...