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Thread #122449   Message #2690872
Posted By: Royston
31-Jul-09 - 04:02 AM
Thread Name: BS: So why has the BNP gained votes?
Subject: RE: BS: So why has the BNP gained votes?
Akenaton

The arguments for and against mass economic immigration seem to be the contentious factor in this discussion, but they are not being addressed


But the point is that this idea of "mass immigration" and "swamping" is a total fantasy. It isn't happening and that has been demonstrated by the production of evidence on several occasions in this and other related threads.

People seem determined to make this an issue of racial bigotry

But that is the issue. Proof has also been provided that the BNP is a racist and fascist party based on the German Nazi model. It lies about its ambitions and true policies (specific proof has already been given).

As I have said before, there is nothing wrong with being worried about immigration and social change but people need to bring those worries out for proper discussion. The proper response of a genuinely concerned decent person is not to vote for the next Adolf Hitler to be PM of our great nation.

This is about the BNP and how dangerous its ideas are. Some people think it is innocuous. Proof to the contrary is provided. Now if these supporters are "decent" they would be considering their position of support quite carefully. Yet they ignore all evidence and continue their support for what they now know to be a neo-nazi fascist party.

Therefore I do say that these people *are* racists and fascists. That is a fair and reasonable conclusion on the evidence of their own behaviour.

All their arguments are stripped away to the point there is only one conclusion left that explains their position.

There is a part of the UK in which the society is so deeply divided that huge concrete walls have had to be erected between the different sections to keep them from shooting one another through their kitchen windows....yet no comment from the "liberals"....is it because both sections are "white" and not covered by current "liberal" dogma?

That sentence should be in the past tense, referring to the situation in Northern Ireland. And the left/liberals were active in seeking an end to that as well. It took a left-ish conservative PM and a labour government to bring it to something approximating an end. There's little point discussing 20th Century history in the context of this thread.

This thread is completely out of proportion to its importance, The UK will never become another "Reich" and you all know that very well

No, this country will never become another Reich because most British people are decent and fair-minded and because enough of us will ensure that the BNP lies are exposed for their horrible reality.