Well said, Larry. Just to clear one point: I for one have not intended to say a word against the ANC's objectives, nor for that matter against its methods, though now the question's raised, I did find the necklacing and some of Winnie's behaviour a bit hard to stomach. I was just saying that the ANC itself has made the point that whereas the ANC was fighting for democracy, the Provos (certainly for the past 20 years or so) have been fighting against one - albeit one that is seriously flawed by a partisan police force, at least in the six-counties part of the enemy country.

I did read that other thread Alison, but I don't remember much from Brendy about the ANC and Patriotic Front perspectives, which is what he/she seems to be challenging here.