the way i read steves last post was of different ways to fight them but maybe i have been decieved? i certainly didn't agree with his earlier posts and nor do i agree with johns, but i would never say you shouldn't say what you truely think. as long as what you are saying you do actually believe.

i don't mind someone playind devils advocate, but as long as i know that is what they are doing, i am the first to admit, i can be very thick sometimes.

just to be clear i am not knocking the progress so far. and i admire the stamina and effort that has gone into making the group and sustaining it.
my sound off was simple. i just don't like being told it is none of my buisness, coz i am a nosey, opinionated git!!! not to mention very stubborn.

however i do feel bad if you all get the idea that i was being too judgemental.

take care all

jade x x x x