Matt Milton wrote - near the top of this thread
But don't let me hog it all - you too can rejoice in parading Luddite and unreflecting opinions in further posts in this wilfully ignorant and ghettoising thread...

Matt,
I'm afraid that you are falling into the same trap as I did a while back. It led to me receiving the following piece of advice in a PM:-

Vic
I think you've forgotten the First Commandment of Mudcat
"Do not try to argue with Captain Birdseye*, for it will end in much wailing and gnashing of teeth"
It is easy to get tempted, but better to resist!

*AKA Good Soldier Schweik. AKA Dick Miles.

I now follow this advice carefully and would suggest that you do the same.
(I think we are to meet on Sept 17th.)