Thanks Lox, you put it well.

And Jade, thanks also. I agree (just reviewed my PM to you about it last night BTW, it made absolutely NO sense whatever - Gin addled!).

An *individual* not getting on well in formal education for personal reasons (I was close to falling out of it early on too), in no way demonstrates ignorance in that person (you express yourself with much intelligence and insight). My old Dad's spelling is utterly abysmal (he asks me how to spell one syllable words sometimes) and he HATED school, yet he became a designer and inventor.) but *entire communities* doing so, say's to me that something must surely be up there.

I've glanced over the boards of White Power type sites when people have linked them here, and virtually *none of them* have even a basic grasp of the English language. To learn and understand, we must be able to both reason adequately, and to communicate effectively. Spelling is merely one *superficial* indicator of those capacities, and not a foolproof one by any means, but neverthelss it can I think offer a very general guide to the level of education and therefore capacity for reasoning and understanding of people that get involved in racist type organisations.

Sadly IMO, bar the points previously elaborated by Lox, this also means that all the proofs and evidence that people post up here, to refute the claims that right wing media spout out, will fall on deaf ears if the education of those targeted implies that they will very likely be unable to engage with those materials in any meaningful way.