All I did was reproduce a statement made by Peggy Seeger about why policy among members and residents was formulated as it was, and how. The only thing you and Jim Carroll seem to agree on is that she got her dates slightly wrong but now you seem to be accusing me as well as PS of not knowing what building we were in on Saturday nights. I think it hardly likely that Peggy would confuse one club with another, but know that I certainly did not and am not in need of your "correction". Bert Lloyd used to send me reams of single-spaced, manual-typed rewrites of my reviews which I greatly appreciated. Scatter-gun snarlings from you (whoever you are) are not.

Ewan helped and encouraged me greatly and I only wish I'd had the foresight to hang on in longer. You, on the other hand, resented his wisdom and example and wanted to be left to continue "your" establishment in a downmarket, GEFFish fashion. You got your wish when E&P left to found the Singers. Which is what the OP was inquiring about.

The B&B (from what I observed) was dominated by a bunch of tedious bearded leftover misfits from the jazz and skiffle era, whereas the Singers was a vibrant hotbed of innovation and interpretation (that is until Sandra Kerr and others took off to Bethnal Green to pursue the goal of agitprop song and theatre even more forcefully at the Knave of Clubs).

You are presumably still sitting round your virtual campfire in your knotted Y-fronts railing at any hint of musical progression. It's not funny and it's not clever to slag off Ewan at the drop of a pork-pie hat, still less so to distort his teaching and philosophy. You didn't like his methods? Fine, no one ever forced you to take part. Carry on with Kumbaya but out of vision, please.