and Frank, your reminiscences about the Troubador are the kind of thing that make coming to the Mudcat worthwhile.
I had thought McGuinn and Crosby were pals in the Greenwich folk scene before coming to LA, but you imply they met at the Troubador. And how did Gene Clark hook up with them?
What kind of stuff were you and Crosby doing at the time? That must have been 1964 or so? Straight folk and traditional music?
Sorry, but I would buy you a beer if we were sitting in a bar, just to keep you talking.