Heric, Leave it to leaders and churches to all over to complicate the thing for sure.   A couple of things I wish all wouldsimply follow, the greatest of all commandments "love one another as you would love yourself" how much clearer can that be ... or the "Let he who has no sin cast the first stone" or the "father forgive them, they know not what they are doing"

all summed up right there. Yet I hear the TV guys railing at gays and Catholics and Jewish people etc. ... I always felt, try walking the walk and not talking the talk and where do they get this stuff and what God do that serve?... that is where we get the idea that everyone of faith is the same way and it is sad I think.