Close, MudGuard. Carmen will swear that it hit while I was helping to load the luggage into the taxi that was to take us to the airport on the first day of our vacation. So, for the entire duration of the journey, I was only able to cope with the pain through the nearly constant intake of Guinness or any of a wide variety of Dunkels. As for Oktoberfest, we wouldn't have missed it for anything; but never, ever want to do it again.

BTW, folks, MudGuard was wonderfully helpful in assisting Carmen and me in our planning of our trip. This is just one more illustration of the wonders of the Mudcat and the folks you meet here. The caring response to this thread is yet another.