Well like Mae West, we have certainly drifted.
Could we get back to the subject of the thread please?
Joe asked a question, and very few have answered it.
Although this thread is a fine example of what's wrong with some Mudcatters.
The inability to stick to the subject, coupled with the ability to take offence where none is intended, just about covers it.
In one pub I used to call my local, there were three banned subjects, politics, sport, and religion.
Oh how I miss that pub!

JM