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Thread #124681   Message #2756246
Posted By: Q (Frank Staplin)
30-Oct-09 - 08:43 PM
Thread Name: BS: American English usages taking over Brit
Subject: RE: BS: American English usages taking over Brit
McGrath, guards-van was the word I indicated was obsolete. I don't know if it was ever used in England.

The Kennedy's 'Cuber' for Cuba deserves some comment. Bostonians (and many other New Englanders of Irish and central English ancestry) pronounce many words ending in 'a' as if they ended in 'er'. The pronunciation is imported. 'Alabamer' is one that Southerners often comment on. I don't know enough about the accents of the Irish, etc. who came here in the late 19th or early 20th c. to comment on the origin of this, but perhaps someone from Ireland or Northern Ireland or central England will comment. A young Englishman with Ph.D., working in a research group I was with, always said 'Cuber', etc.

The mis-pronunciation of foreign words beginning with 'i' is common both in the U. S. and Canada. Even when in the middle of a word, it gets the hard 'i' treatment.
If you ever visit Georgia, there is a town named Vienna, pronounced Vi-anna. People look puzzled if you say 'Vee-enna'.

Similarly, the Spanish Rio is usually pronounced Ry-o by older Anglos, just as it is in English chanteys.
This also is an import.