Jeri, there is a difference between taking a troll's bait and speaking out to take issue with a statement which is a deliberate attempt to spread misinformation. Not to speak up when one sees an obvious deception in progress is to implicitly condone that deception.

I don't believe either Ake or GfS will ever see the error of their ways. They have too much emotional investment in their prejudices. I do not harbor the misconception that anything I say or any evidence I present, no matter how correct and convincing it is seen to be by a rational person, will ever change either of their minds.

But exposing a falsehood and trying to change the mind of the spreader of that falsehood are two different issues. One can refute Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly (quite easily, actually), and undeceive someone who might naively believe something they claim, but one will never get either of them to change their positions. Their livelihood depends on it. They're professional manure-spreaders.

Don Firth