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Thread #120107   Message #2759906
Posted By: mandotim
05-Nov-09 - 03:21 AM
Thread Name: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
Subject: RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew
One last try; what Australian/New Zealand 'independence' movements do you in fact support WAV? Names would be good, manifestos would be better. It seems a trifle odd to have an independence movement in a sovereign, independent state, recognised as such by your beloved United Nations, does it not? It's rather like having an organisation campaigning for independence for France. I concede that there are fringe organisations such as UKIP in this country, but all of these start from the false premise that a sovereign state cannot self-determine. If the UK chose to leave the EU, it could do so. There would be dire geopolitical and economic consequences, but the other states would not be able to prevent this. The same applies to Australia and New Zealand and their Commonwealth membership. So, WAV, are you going to break the habit of a lifetime and give a straight answer to a straight question? To remind you;
In what way are Australia and New Zealand not 'fully independent'? Who makes their laws and public policy other than their own democratically elected governments?