Yeah, but Little Hawk, it's also entirely evident that both men and women exhibit a wide range of behaviors. Any attempt to deny that is an attempt to oppress. We are of course animals, but as a species we have made many, many choices about what sort of animals we want to be. We aspire to shine like the stars in the sky, to borrow a phrase, so in general we try not to do things like rend live prey into shreds with our teeth and claws, or abandon our runts -- my point is that it is not always useful to draw exact parallels between animal behavior and human behavior. Margaret