Little Hawk,
The examples you listed have nothing whatsoever to do with Orwell or fascism. I think these examples would make an interesting thread, one about politicians pretending to be something they are not and calling themselves liberal or conservative whey they are acting in ways that are the exact opposite. I agree with what you said about Reagan and Blair. Go start a thread on that topic and I'll cheerfully join in.

These examples, however, have nothing to do with the way in which Akenaton is using the words "liberal", "Orwellian", or "fascist". As I said, he is using this language to demean and marginalize people so that he can feel good about not backing up his assertions with facts or logic. It allows him to ignore anyone who doesn't agree with him.

I never asked you to weigh in on the gay question. I asked you why you thought it was appropriate to support what Akenaton was saying and the way he is saying it on the question of whether or people who disagree with him are Orwelliam liberal fascists, whatever that means.

If you have no interest in the topic at hand, PLEASE go away. If you don't understand that you, within the context of this conversation, supported Akenaton's contention that most of the rest of us are mindless sheep being lead around and told what to say by some nameless wolf, I repeat my suggestion that you have failed to show even the most basic comprehension of what's going on here and your place in it.