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Thread #59418   Message #2772072
Posted By: Amos
23-Nov-09 - 04:41 PM
Thread Name: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
"n my favorite recent study, experimenters manipulate cues so that the subject forms an unconscious goal, whose (unnoticed) frustration makes them lose confidence and perform worse at a subsequent task! The dangerous truth, it seems to me, is that these are not isolated little laboratory events. Instead, they reveal the massed woven fabric of our day-to-day existence. The underlying mechanisms at work impart an automatic drive towards the automation of all manner of choices and actions, and don't discriminate between the 'trivial' and the portentous.

It now seems clear that many of my major life and work decisions are made very rapidly, often on the basis of ecologically sound but superficial cues, with slow deliberative reason busily engaged in justifying what the quick-thinking zombies inside me have already laid on the table. The good news is that without these mechanisms we'd be unable to engage in fluid daily life or reason at all, and that very often they are right. The dangerous truth, though, is that we are indeed designed to cut conscious, aware choice out of the picture wherever possible. This is not an issue about free will, but simply about the extent to which conscious deliberation cranks the engine of behavior. Crank it it does: but not in anything like the way, or extent, we may have thought. We'd better get to grips with this before someone else does."

Andy Clark, Edinburgh University

I would disagree with the good Dr Clark in one key respect, namely that uninspected, instantaneous thought can range from the completely reactionary to the brilliantly rational before it is translated into the cognitive Lakovian frames we think of as conscious deliberation, gear it down into language, and try to express it to others. This is true regardless of where it may be found on the spectrum of insight, differentiation, or rationality.   Anyone who has experienced tight telepathy has experienced this.

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