"And I never believe that a woman is in the right, purely *because* she is a woman."

Well, how about believing that THIS woman is right because a tribunal has found that she was? Because the evidence was so strong that her two bullies have been sacked? Because there was PHYSICAL EVIDENCE of the bullying which was presented during the investigation? Is that enough? Or are the poor blokes bound to be the victims in your eyes because, quite frankly, you don't seem to like other women very much? Because that's all the "sisterhood" is: woman who care about other women, and sdon't define themselves through men, or through fawning over men. We are strong enough to know our worth, and to stand on equal terms with men. Many of us also like them rather a lot. I know I do. So this "man-hating" rubbish is exactly that.

I think it's rather sad when a woman has to still define herself and her self-worth through male approval and her sexuality - as the folk songs say, "For the leaves they will wither, and the branches will decay...and the beauty of a fair maid will soon fade away."

The brightest, most competent, most interesting women I know are also pretty damn sexy, and men find them so all the time. A woman doesn't have to be some parody of wilting, clinging, whimsical, over-made-up femininity to be sexy. She can have a career, she can be a mum, she can indulge her femininity in the manner of her choosing - lots of women do all of these things, and they manage to maintain happy, healthy relationships with men.

"My life has not been enriched by a woman becoming a beefeater, nor has it been made somehow more meaningful."

See, that's typical of your logic and short-sightedness, Lizzie. Because if women like Moira hadn't in the past done what she's done - been the first courageous woman to enter into a male workplace, and pave the way for future generations - you wouldn't have many of the freedoms you enjoy now. So you may not think she has enriched your life, but women like her certainly have. And who knows? Maybe your granddaughter will one day want to be a Beefeater, and will be grateful that Moira has done what she's done now. I know I'm grateful to women like her.

"Crude Away to your heart's content"

Ha. I see you discover your primness and sanctimony when convenient, Lizzie - normally you're effing and blinding in one of your rants, so do spare us the moral superiority.