"There have been several threads on which you made reference to this incident. Kate has come to Mudcat on more than one occasion to try and get you to stop defaming her. You were not there. You did not witness the incident. It is, and always was, none of your business, unless your business is hysterical, ill-informed shit-stirring."


The person who did the shit-stirring in this matter was the person who started that thread, way back...actually.

Kate has NOT come on Mudcat 'several times' to 'try and get 'me' to stop defaming her'

If she has, then please, print it out here for us all to see...

Sorry, Joan, but I do have a right to my opinion on this matter, and it is also, in a way, relevant to this thread, because of the man/woman/man thing.

And if you and folkiedave cannot see a parallel between Moira's case and so much of the shite you two write about me, then I'm afraid that there's not a lot of hope left, is there...

And I still think, getting BACK to the thread topic, that the end result of this case has been so drastic and hugely damaging for two families, the rest of the Beefeaters, and the lady concerned.   I'm sure that the right person could have smoothed those rocky waters over and it's a crying shame that no-one was able to find that person.