Dear Jim - Some of us (like no-nuthin me) just follow these threads as a source of (possibly interesting) information, irrespective of 'who started it' or other stuff. I'm just interested in knowing the facts, without ploughing through books I might otherwise have no time for. I only just heard Ewans Thomas, so this thread has become more interesting. It might be helpful if posters considered that these threads are a kind of educational resource, rather than merely a squabble!