Hi villan

Well said. I'm with you. .....and with cricket too.

I taught myself guitar and I have played and sung in public as a pro/semi-pro for four decades now.

I remember first starting out. Where could I go to try out the songs I had been learning?

I was advised to try the local Folk club. I practised and practised till my throat and fingers were sore.

Came the big day and I stood up and sang. Of course I was nervous. Made a right balls of it.

But I was praised by the organisers and I think most of the audience.
Bolstered by this I accepted an invitation to return and did so after more practice - with different songs.

That went down better and so my musical "career" was started.

I haven't always played folk music - I did rock,pop,blues jazz and some session work.

But never forgot where I started and was often delighted to go back and play and sing ( for no fee !!!) to demonstrate my thanks.

Also I have organised and run folk clubs ( not just traditional music though) and have always welcomed with open arms people who are prepared to be serious about wanting to perform. I have - along with others - helped other musicians by giving slots and help and advice.

That's my idea of a folk club.

If that is landfill then so be it....

cheers

Mike