Don: "I haven't hear anyone here on this thread say that a gay person who is unhappy with his or her sexual orientation should not go to a qualified threrapist." All I am saying is that so far such attempts have not been spectacularly successful and have often led to undesirable—in some cases disastrous—results (depression and suicide). Anyone who contemplates "reversion therapy" should be aware of the possible risks and pitfalls before undertaking such a venture."

There you go again.....Hey all you out there who might want the experience in life of bringing forth your own children, you might suffer depression and commit suicide!!

I only said, those who would WANT to evolve a little higher, than to have their highest experience in life, more than that of having their dicks stuck in someones poop!

Don:"My quarrel is with those such as you and Richard Cohen who insist that gays should or must seek ...blah blah blah"

Never said that. That's your interpretation. My post about Cohen was to show it was possible, when you were promoting the genetic thing..which, BTW, you later discredited with your own post(link from Boston)...along with other theories, which also that same post discredited.

Don: "If two people of the same sex wish to form a domestic partnership—indeed, a marriage"

Head on.....but don't insult marriage by calling it such....its just two people of the same sex, who can't get it on with the other sex, living and having sex together. Be happy and prosper...well sorta'.
If that's as high as you can get, fine. My deepest sympathies, that that's as high as you think you can experience.

Let me tell you a personal side note, (I seldom do that),..we delivered our children at home, alone..just us..and breathed their first breath into them, it was a rather sacred experience. Their isn't a time, when either of us hear the initial crack, of a newborn's cry, that our eyes don't fill with tears. Its awesome, and its an extension of your own life, and lineage, that was granted to you, to be conscientiously responsible for. We have met that responsibility, and have nurtured them to responsible adults who have children of their own. Our son, has deliver 6 of his 7, at home, alone, breathing their first breath of life into them, as well. Not only that, they are their first and only, and are still actively in love with each other, as if they were in their first year of marriage. Both of them glow, and have been used as examples, in the community that they live. All, of our kids, have their own children, own their own homes, and are the tightest families, you may have ever seen. If I could possibly share with you all, the fullness of life and joy that it brings us, I wish I could. It is a wealth, I wish could be shared with all.

I'll leave on a smiling note.
GfS