I worked with the AFSC for a while. The Quakes were the only religion it seemed to me that had a handle on the madness of war. AFSC really does a great social service and they take their role seriously. Those Quakes are on the front line.

As all religious groups are, they were inconsistent. They were well-known for their
whaling in Nantucket, ( a bloody undertaking). Not non-violent with animals.

Being a musician when I attended meetings, I would be up the night before and would
unintentionally go to sleep. I liked being awakened however by the interruption of "concerns" when the participants would stand and share their views.

I like to see Quakes at Peace Demonstrations, too. They are quiet witnesses and not given
to ranting and shouting. Their philosophy in my interpretation is if you want peace in the world, then you should be really peaceful as a person.

I also like their "undue distinction between men". I don't like the idea of putting any human being on a pedestal. One inconsistency here is that you don't get to be a Friend by
just attempting to join. You gotta' be recognized by some. That's a little elitist.

So, there are different Quakes. But they have the most sane view of the futility of war.