Oh - and sorry, in answer to your other question. Yes you are quite right. I do not see the Jesuit saying as being somehow taken over by 'New Labour'. I do not see the saying as sinister either. The underlying usage of it in the Jesuit order may have been disturbing but it is still a truism. Whoever has control of the childs early years controls their character as adults. Those on the streets 'drinking their very soul away' (whatever that may mean) are not there because New Labour made them so. Their parents must take some of the responsibility surely, don't you think?

DeG