PS
I should have added that this is the last word I have to say on this subject ON THIS THREAD.
While I am more than happy to continue this apparently insoluable argument elsewhere, I have no intention whatever of ruining an excellent thread on BALLAD SINGING with a Tweedledum-Tweedledee battle that has nothing whatever to do with the subject in hand.
Bryan - you want to continue this - open an old thread or start a new one.
Jim Carroll