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Thread #115883   Message #2825508
Posted By: Little Hawk
30-Jan-10 - 11:22 AM
Thread Name: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration
Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration
Sawzaw, I'd love to ignore the USA and just concentrate on Canada...but I can't because the USA dominates Canada! ;-) In terms of policy and media and economy, I mean. Therefore the USA is an ever present problem for every Canadian, and we must be concerned about the USA.

It's kind of like Ukrainians must be concerned about Russia. Very similar, in fact. I have a Polish friend and she says that now that she's living here she sees how the USA looms over us just like Russia looms over Poland. She didn't get that till she was living here.

I don't expect you to understand that because you have never experienced it. You're used to living in the BIG place that affects everyone else...and you haven't experienced being the one affected BY the superpower.

I also lived in the USA for 10 years, so I have a good basis of comparison. Canada is mostly a capitalist society, not a socialist society. We do have a socialist form of medical coverage here...and it's the single most popular government institution in this country. It is the one thing that even a neocon administration does not dare to dismantle, because the public would be up in arms if they tried it.

You don't get it. You're ignorant of certain things because you have never experienced them. That doesn't mean you're stupid. It just means you don't know, that's all. We are all ignorant of certain things, and it's not a crime to be ignorant, but it happens, okay? I'm ignorant of many things and so are you. You are ignorant of Canadian society when you characterize us as "socialist", because we are mostly capitalist, but EVERY society has SOME socialism...it can't function without some socialism, and that is true of the USA as well. You HAVE a fair bit of socialism in the USA, because you MUST have it in order to even keep functioning as a society.

To call another primariy capitalist society "socialist" because it has socialism in one or two areas where you don't is asinine.

Cut and paste me or provide a link to the entire Michael Moore talk which you have lifted one little fragment out of...I'll read it so I can see in context what he was talking about...and then I'll decide whether he's "lying", which I seriously doubt. I think he's probably making a very useful point about something...one which has eluded you.