GfS, every argument you answer shit for brains have put up for your nasty and harmful desires to be vile toward people have been demolished.

It's not about 'the figures', it's about people and how you treat them. I can see now that Keith's argument is just about the academic value of 'the figures' and I can respect that for its own worth.

The only people who agree with your opinions towards gay people and towards HIV are, well, you and Ake.

Keith, I can see that you and I might be agree on a lot of things. I would hold you in higher regard if, when you joined a debate like this one, you would say something like 'my opinion on the subject is......but I disagree with......and am insure about.......but I don't think figures x, y and z are being used properly.

I would thank you for that honesty and fairness on any day of the week.