Keith: The debate is not advanced one iota.
Just empty point scoring.
Was it worth it?

Yes it was. Because you are still twisting and turning - took you three posts in two hours to even report accurately one of the figures from the avert site. And you are still trying to divide the numbers by two. Idiot.

It was worth it, Keith, because it proves that you cannot be trusted. Not at all. Not even a little bit. It proves your agenda. It proves that you don't really care about the sacred truth of your statistics.

In future, Keith, don't lie and bullshit people with your statistics. Try some points of principle; it's clear that you have some, don't be so ashamed of them.

I told you a few posts back that the NATSAL survey was not a great one - only 11,000 people, but you bloody well introduced it while lying about what its conclusions were. But the results stand and as a comparison (2000 against 1990) it shows either that homosexual activity has increased enormously - which you will agree is rubbish - or that stigmatisation has reduced and more people are willing to come forward and be open.

So that rather proves the likely benefit that reducing stigma has on health - if there's no social shame about being gay and people can be more open then they are more likely to access healthcare and advice for gay men, protect themeselves and get tested if needs be.