Further up the thread Royston says.
"We're talking about whether or not women who have been raped, should carry some blame for what happened to them."

Well actually we are NOT discussing that at all.

We are discussing whether SOME rape victims should take partial responsibility.

All the stuff about dress is a bit of a red herring, as is all the verbiage about family friends, husbands ect.
These are not the cases we are discussing

"you think some women deserve to be raped"
How many times have I read that on this thread.
Nobody said anyone DESERVES to be raped
The crime is inexcusible....I said that in my first post.

What prompted me to post at all, was the case in the newspapers of a young lady who met a young man in a pub...both got sloshed, went back to his flat, got into bed and had sex.
The two parted company, and the next day, the young lady went to the police an complained of rape.

Now that girl of course did not deserve to be raped...if she was raped, but in my opinion acted in a very irresponsible manner.

This thread is a very good example of "liberalism" in action, isolate the two or three who deviate slightly from the prescribed form of words, then bully and misrepresent what they say until they fall silent and give way.   That is not being liberal, a true liberal will read a post and if he disagrees with part of it will try to come to an understanding with the other party, not simply abuse them, as has been done with Lizzie here.
I dont agree with all she says, but her opinions are not "vile" or "hateful", she just sees things slightly differently from the rest.

Jeddy....nice to see your name again my dear, I've missed your question, but I'll go back and try to find it...Ake