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Thread #127384   Message #2841755
Posted By: Emma B
17-Feb-10 - 06:51 AM
Thread Name: BS: 'Some rape victims should take blame'- ??
Subject: RE: BS: Some rape victims should take blame
Bruce makes the point at 16 Feb 10 - 09:00 PM to teach your children well.

As long some people continue to place blame on women for provoking being raped by their dress or drinking they will fail in that duty as the parents of the boys and men who go on to rape secure in the knowledge that the woman 'deliberately sent out ALL the wrong messages ' and are thus absolved of the responsibility for their actions or misinterpretation of the so called 'messages'

Researchers consistently have found that approximately one-half of all sexual assaults are committed by men who have been drinking alcohol.
Depending on the sample studied and the measures used, the estimates for alcohol use among perpetrators have ranged from 34 to 74 percent (Abbey et al. 1994; Crowell and Burgess 1996
Although the same study has shown that similar numbers of the victims had also been drinking this is hardly surprising as in social situations (e.g., in bars or at parties), drinking tends to be a shared activity.

It is important to emphasize, however, that although a woman's alcohol consumption may place her at increased risk of sexual assault, she is in no way responsible for the assault.
THE PERPETRATORS ARE LEGALLY AND MORALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR BEHAVIOUR!


PARENTS OF YOUNG RAPISTS FINED

In the news recently is the Italian judge who, in a landmark ruling, fined the parents of rapists for failures in upbringing.

In a written judgment, the judge said the defendants came from seemingly normal families. Yet they appeared to have no understanding of the gravity of what they had done. They had given evidence about the rapes in a way that was "aseptic", she said.

The judge said this showed the accused had not been brought up "in a context of respect for the feelings, wishes and bodies of others".

In their defence, the mothers and fathers of the boys had offered various examples of their supposedly good parenting and testified that their children were 'brought up to be good Christians'


Lizzie says

"I have the utmost sympathy for women who've been raped in the most innocent of circumstances, who have done nothing to entice a man, but have simply been in the wrong place at the wrong time, when some bloody nutter has pounced on them. Or who has been the victim of a vicious and planned attack, by a crazy or vindictive relative or colleague"
"I also have the utmost sympathy for women who have been raped in an innocent situation but who have then been accused of "she led me on, she was gagging for it!" when no such thing ever happened."

Of course hegemonic masculinity is the most common blueprint in Western culture and I don't suppose there is really any point in presenting further evidence against such entrenched simplistic opinions that acquaintance rapes simply don't fall into these 'neat' categories

Real life is not the black, white and rosy glow of Lizzieworld

"rape will never be treated as the horrendous crime it is as long as courts give out jail terms which are a fuckin' joke"

- and as long as the victim is perceived by some people to carry responsibility for a criminal assault the courts will reflect this distorted perspective too.