The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #87391   Message #2845964
Posted By: Sawzaw
21-Feb-10 - 02:36 PM
Thread Name: BS: Where's the Global Warming
Subject: RE: BS: Where's the Global Warming
"net mass of icebergs from those being monitored has declined continuously over the last 20 years. The measurement population, though, is between 29 and 80 glaciers."

Is 29 to 80 glaciers out of 100000 is a fair sample?

There are 15000 in the Himalayas alone. How many of them are being monitored?

You let someone else do the thinking for you. Are you in incapable?

When asked for some specific facts you refer people elsewhere.

"The USGS Benchmark Glacier Program began in 1957 as a result of research efforts during the International Geophysical Year (Meier and others, 1971). Annual data collection occurs at three glaciers that represent three climatic regions in the United States: South Cascade Glacier in the Cascade Mountains of Washington State; Wolverine Glacier on the Kenai Peninsula near Anchorage, Alaska; and Gulkana Glacier in the interior of Alaska "

3 whole glaciers represent every glacier in the US.

Two hundred years [dating back before the CO2 buildup started] of glacial shrinkage in Alaska, and then came the winter and summer of 2007-2008.

Unusually large amounts of winter snow were followed by unusually chill temperatures in June, July and August.

"In mid-June, I was surprised to see snow still at sea level in Prince William Sound," said U.S. Geological Survey glaciologist Bruce Molnia. "On the Juneau Icefield, there was still 20 feet of new snow on the surface of the Taku Glacier in late July. At Bering Glacier, a landslide I am studying, located at about 1,500 feet elevation, did not become snow free until early August.

"In general, the weather this summer was the worst I have seen in at least 20 years."

Never before in the history of a research project dating back to 1946 had the Juneau Icefield witnessed the kind of snow buildup that came this year. It was similar on a lot of other glaciers too.

"It's been a long time on most glaciers where they've actually had positive mass balance," Molnia said.