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Thread #126347   Message #2846070
Posted By: John Minear
21-Feb-10 - 04:42 PM
Thread Name: From SF to Sydney - 1853 Shanties Sung?
Subject: RE: From SF to Sydney - 1853 Shanties Sung?
I realize how tentative some of this information may be. But, as I said in my previous note, there may be some useful broad outlines here. I wanted to bring my list of "Black-influenced" shanties into a little more focus by presenting the ones that may have been used in the Gulf ports for stowing cotton, etc.

I suspect that there were at least two different sets here. One was the set of work songs coming down the rivers, from the plantations and wherever else the slaves were working, to the ports, where they were used for loading and unloading the cargo from the ships. Another set may have been the ones which were already shanties and which came into port on the ships and were picked up and modified by the workers on shore. The supposition here is that both sets were incorporated in one form or another into the larger sea-going collection of shanties.   And both were probably heavily influenced by the Black work force.

Cotton-screwing song given by Phillip Henry Gosse near Mobile (December 31,1838):

"Fire the ringo"

Songs given by Erskine as "cotton-screwing" songs in New Orleans (September of 1845):

"Bonnie Laddie"
"Fire Maringo"

Songs given by Nordhoff as "cotton-screwing" songs in Mobile (between 1845 and 1853):

"Hieland Laddie"
"Fire Maringo"
"Stormalong"
"Yankee Dollar"

Songs given by Captain Whidden from Captain Meacom's collection of pumping shanties that may have come from the wharfs of New Orleans (1850s):

"John, Come Tell Us As We Haul Away"/ "Johnny Come Tell Us And Pump Away!"
"Fire Down Below"
"One More Day"

Songs that Hugill associates with the cotton hoosiers and the Gulf ports and cotton-stowing (he does not offer any documentation for his suppositions):

"My Dollar And A Half A Day" ("Lowlands")
"Walk Me Along, Johnny"
"Round The Bay Of Mexico"
"Hieland Laddie"
"Roll The Cotton Down" (b)
"Knock A Man Down" from Sharp
"Hilo, Boys, Hilo"
"Hilo Come Down Below" (Bullen)
"Shallow Brown"
"The Gal With the Blue Dress On"
"The Hog-eye Man"
"John, Come Tell Us As We Haul Away"/ "Mobile Bay"
"Hooker John"
"Heave Away" ("I'd rather court a yellow gal than work for Henry Clay") from Sandburg
    [As Gibb has pointed out above, this may not be a shanty.]
"Paddy Lay Back"/"Mainsail Haul"
"Good Mornin' Ladies All" (b)
"Walkalong, Miss Susiana Brown"
"Dixie Land" / "Sing A Song, Blow-Along O!"
"John Cherokee" (Colcord)
"Billy Riley"
"One More Day" (Colcord)
"Bully In The Alley"

Others:

"Tommy's Gone Away" (Sharp) cotton-screwing
"A Long Time Ago"   (Hugill (d) & Sharp)
"Hooraw For The Blackball Line"   (Sharp)
"Roll The Cotton Down" (Hugill (a) & (b)
"Shenandoah" / "O Shenandoah, My Bully Boy" (Bullen)
"Ten Stone" (Hugill)