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Thread #127384   Message #2846103
Posted By: mauvepink
21-Feb-10 - 05:23 PM
Thread Name: BS: 'Some rape victims should take blame'- ??
Subject: RE: BS: 'Some rape victims should take blame'- ??
"Because Once Upon A Time, not only in The Land of Lizzie, women were far more feminine and they recognised that choosing a mate was perhaps far more what they wanted than sleeping around with every Tom, Dick and Harry's dick. Nature kinda gave us a protective instinct, it went along with motherhood, children, all that 'stuff' we got rid of in the Evolution of Women into Psuedo Men campaign."

Lizzie I have nothing against the old fashioned courtship, falling in love, marraige, children, grandchildren route. It's wonderful when it happens, as long as that is what both sides want, and it can be beautifully romantic. Nothing wrong with being 'old fashioned' either if that is what folks want.

But I doubt the above will go full circle. Some of the picture you paint will never return because women stopped buying into the idea of needing a man for financial support. They can still be extremely feminine - though I take your point about women acting like men and I have no like for that way either personally - and now lots of women want a career and not children. The ethic of "you have my babies and I'll make you my property, take your financial independence away and make you dependant on me so I can have sex when I want with you' has mostly passed by in the modern world. That is not making women men, It just means they have taken charge of their own lives and now enjoy the same independance that men enjoy if they so wish.

Those of us who believe in the old fashioned way still have no right to motalise on women's new found freedoms. We could have them oourselves if we so choose and they could have the old fashioned way if they wished it.

I think all we are seeing is a balance on both side of the gender divide. It does not mean women need to act like men. But it also does not mean that if a woman chooses to have her independance and have a free choice of sexual partner, just like men can have, that she should be judged for doing so.

I still think that a great many women who 'sleep around' are still actually seeking love in their own way. There are a lot of lonely people out there and long term relationships need a lot of work. I decry that more people do not stay together but I would not want to see a return of women being tied to their husband's demands and power under the law.

(This is not to say anything against men. I believe men have xhanged too of late, mostly, and maybe they do not want a return to the old ways. I cannot speak for them in any way).

This is just my opinion Lizzie, as you have yours, and whilst I find your life sounding so romantic I ask that it does not close your eyes to how women have got to where they are.

mp