MP both you and your friend are grasping at straws.
Everybody realises .....if they are being honest and not just toadying up to one another, that we all must accept a degree of responsibility for our actions.

I f Amos and I can agree on that, then it must make sense!!

Now, I intend to say no more, the points have been made and no amount of squirming will change them ....good night.