Amos,

Thanks for that.

Your tangent is interesting as it draws atteention to and ultimately clarifies the confusion confusion surrounding the subject of responsibility.

The reason I commented on its relevance, was not because I have a problem with tangents, but because there have been posts to this thread which asserted that a woman who dresses sexily is partially responsible for the rape on her. These comments have attempted to blur the issue by misappying the "self possession" sense of responsibilty to imply partial blame.

It was therefore important for me to clarify that distinction so as to remove any ambiguity, and to show that in the context of this discussion a woman who dresses sexily or who is drunk is no more responsible for being raped than a woman who wears a nuns habit and hangs out in church.

I think that that last distinction puts us on the same page.