Richard M: Presuming that "we" means young men, then those of us who aren't young men can't apply it to ourselves.

That was my point! The now vanished Suibhne pointed out a few times that he found he was still the 'baby' of most song sessions, despite being born in 1961. I'm suggesting gently that it ill becomes gents of mature years like me (born 1960) to lay down the law to people young enough to be our children.