Look at how many kids could die before Sep 23 and how many adults could die by 2014 due to lack of health insurance.

Well, speaking as one who has no health care now, it's still a big improvement, because I would have to wait until 2021 before I would have access to proper health care if it hadn't been passed. And I guess you don't give a crap about all of the kids whose lives will be saved after September 23. Better to let them die than to pass a bill that won't save any kids before September 23. Right? That's how your math works?

And it's just not true that people like us won't see any improvement until 2014. We will be eligible for a tax credit to help us buy insurance next year. Even if we can't get full medical coverage, if the tax credit will help us get catastrophic coverage, we'll still be better off than we are now.