OOoooo praise indeed Llanfair - thank you!! I was dubious about posting it at first, but then remembered how useful the lesson was when I was first given it at the tender age of 19, by a welshman I nearly married.... couldn't cope with the relatives though, his mother spoke two languages, his father one, he spoke three. Ever had an argument in Welsh, Maltese and English? His father was lovely, but knew only 3 phrases in English, and I can't repeat any of them!!LTS