I am not accepting Bobert's assignment. He has to prove his "facts" not I.

If a Bobert claims a budget needs to be posted, he needs to post it.

He has no response on the illegal loophole either.

I am ready to provide more info about my facts or admit when they are wrong.

The reason I made a point of the Amos's collapse is because Amos wants it both ways. He wants to claim there was a collapse but Obama prevented a collapse. Then Obama reversed a collapse. I don't believe collapses are reversible any more than avalanches are reversible.

To correct Amos takes about 50 posts wherein he makes ad hominem attacks and contorts logic into every conceivable form until it finally becomes apparent that he was wrong and he can't escape it. Then he carries a grudge against the person that wouldn't back down and accept his version of reality.

Seems to me that reasonable people would want to know when they were wrong.

PS: I saw David Axelrod on TV saying a collapse was prevented.