Amos: "You guys really need to say which surge you are talking about."

When this thread was started there was only one surge.

Bobert: "I would doubt that if you were to ask a 100 people"

You are welcome to your doubts and assumptions and opinions but they do not constitute facts to anybody but you.

I realize that a question such as this is largely a matter of opinion so I have posted here several instances of important people that said the surge worked but you always want to divert the subject into another direction.

Does your opinion matter more than them. Obama can do no wrong in your eyes but when you and he conflict on something you immediately draw the discussion elsewhere rather than having to admit either you or he is wrong.

The only people left that argue against the success of the surge are the ones that so vehemently were against the surge. Then the more it appeared that it might succeed the nastier and more strident they would get. Now all they can claim is the Awakening did it.

Would there have been an awakening without the surge and if so would it have succeeded without the surge?

You can call me mental or stupid or whatever you want but that does not enhance your credibility. Instead, it weakens it.