Rather than others putting words in your mouth Akenaton, why don't you stop putting words in your own mouth?

People are trying to have a reasoned debate here about clerical abuse of children, or paedophilia as it is clinically known. If you or anybody else wants to start a thread saying how Gay people are the root of all society's problems, then do so. I believe sites exist for you to do this. Some religious sites, Br*tish N*tional P*rty sites etc.

A paedophile is not more a Gay person as a straight person. He or she is a paedophile. To make a sexual orientation distinction is an outrageous slur on many people. A rapist does not make heterosexual love a problem. Marital violence does not make marriage a bad thing. Clerical abuse does not make the church a bad thing.

I have views on religion and especially organised religion that are not exactly complimentary, but I would never ever make clerical abuse in itself an excuse to wipe out religious organisations. I sincerely hope it will help people to question the infallibility of the church, but as an example not a root cause.....