Gone back home today Sunday to sort out the 12 string Thanks very much to John Barden who found the Problem and to Richard Bridge who sorted it out The fault may well have been mine has I strung the 12 string myself with NEW Martin strings gauge 10.

I cant see where I went wrong Richard showed me how to correctly string up a guitar at
Pigs Ear last year   Ie I angled the stings at the bridge end to sit snugly under the pegs. I alined the strings has best I could and above all I allowed for tension re taking the strings back half a fret before tightening.
                            But the strings kept slipping it would not tune and I could not get a note out of the guitar. What ever Richard done to it last night it sounded much better but i refrained from playing it and let it stand over night in its case I have taken it home with me this morning retuned it and its sounds excellent still slipping slightly bur I am sure it will be ok for The Bank holiday session so I will be returning back to Rochester Monday morn to rebook myself in to the B&B and join in the sing around session.
                                                   "What a Bloody Palaver"