Aw Dave, don't be so hard on Harley. They are infinitely improved over the past 20 years. I wouldn't go near one of the pieces of shit on a bet, but they have improved.

Dave's right overall and were it me (half a million miles on road bikes and a lot of dirt riding in my younger days) I would be more interested in any form of training and licensing that addressed the problem of inexperienced riders. I would have said "younger" inexperienced riders many years ago, but the huge number of midlife-yuppie type assholes who have bought the damn Harleys and others are really piss poor riders with inflated ideas of their own abilities.


Spaw