Well jeri, your last paragraph could not be better and it is what I have been trying to apologize for. No, Conrad will not change. Will we? I personally will try and expect to succeed. Will others? Again, I hope so. But can we totally shun him? Well, its a long shot, but I hope so. Applauding him isn't going to make him anymore livable, so let's not do that either......even if he's elected Pope.(:<))Spaw