Thank you for your comment Don. It goes much further for my trade at this venue. Activities don't get going in the Blackmoor Gardens till mid day and usually empties around 5.00. Other caterers at the Ham sell a variety of products and have passing trade till gone mid night. For an odd reason I've been compared with them. Weather wise it can be very unstable, not actually opening for one day last year because of the rain; rain for me means no customers. This is the risk I take. Hey, life's too short to get upset about losing this one. I also received an email from the venue organiser who had omitted to delete the previous email he'd had from a collegue about me being there. It wasn't nice. I don't think they want me there and i'm wondering if the pitch's already gone to my competition. We'll see. I really don't mind and will pop over anyway for a good sing in the Middle Bar.