I only just saw the thread and have had a quick read through so hope I have not missed the most important features anywhere. I apologise if I have.

I also agree with akenaton. The cold facts are that this man's family are seen as collateral damage - like all the innocents seen in war that get killed - and each time we do it we lose some of our humanity. Can you imagine anyone calling all those who were killed in the twin towers "collateral damage"? Like, they only intended to drop the building but never meant anyone to get caught up in it"? Of course not. Those who occupied those towers were targets.

We talk of cut backs in services in our countries yet think nothing of launching a million dollar missile against a ten dollar tent. We do 'clinical strikes' that take out half a block around them and then call the casualties "collateral damage". Innocent people get killed, on both sides, and the whole solution to this will, in the end, come to a very simple piece of furniture. It's called a table. Many can be purchased for under £50.00. It's the cheapest solution to conflict. Until all sides actually sit around a table, and show leniency to each other's differences in policy/ideas until they can talk, this killing will go on. Compromise. One of the BIGGEST words in human language.

There should be no celebrations of death of enemies on either side. In the end it will come down to people sitting around a table and talking out their fundamental differences. Has there ever been a war stopped that did not have this ending?

Body bags are no way to find peace. Creating more people to hate you and who would want to fight you does not seem a good way to stop being attacked either. If any of us had our family wiped out by an unseen enemy, would we not want to go seek them out and have revenge? What else would we have to live for when no-one else listens to us or regards us as important enough to want to save?

Just some thoughts in support of the thread. I get the impression from what I have read that the majority here and in the real world we live in only want to see an end to the killing - on all sides - and that has to be a very noble cause and aim. Sadly it is probably more of a fairy tail. I would happily buy that table for them though. Wouldn't you?

mp