i agree with all you say, Roger. But there is only so much one member can do. I tried to involve the MU but they have a different perspective.

But at least I tried, snd people getting angry about the things that are not wrong is simply not helpful to people trying to effect change.

Don, do your friends complete gigs and clubs scheme returns? If they are not playing many concert venues or getting radio plays its the only way PRS can know about your performances.

They don't just pay out because of the existance of a song, and nor should they. This the Performing RS remember.

Obviously you need to get over the sdmin cost threshold, but again that's completely fair and reasonable.

Members who gig will get money IF they do the paperwork.

tom